Saturday, January 24, 2009

Grandma robbed at knifepoint in "safe" Seputeh

Dear Neighbours,
It is sad when these things happen in our neighbourhood.
Let us not sit back and think it will not happen to us.
Be extra careful during this festive season as well.

Best regards,
Orang Seputeh
Towards A More Secure Future

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is a result of not having our own security in Taman Seputih.

mark tan said...

Dear Orang Seputeh

Sadly this is what happens when there is only talk. What has happened to the SSTF??? Last I heard they have taken over the SRA since all previous members have resigned. Please verify this. Recently received flier about the this incident and found it pathetic. Those who have taken over the respective post should get their act together and get to work instead of blaming the old comitee members. By the way it was the grandma's tennant that was robbed not her son.
Hope someone can also shed light on the possibility of a syndicate thatsafter maids in Seputeh. We have lost one already and i think all those with maids should be on the look out .

Orang Seputeh said...

Dear Mark,
Yes, there should be an alert going out if indeed some group is out to entice maids to run away. Let's hope more people come forward and share their thoughts.
As for your other comments, I just want to tell you that the flyer that you received is not an official SSTF communication but by some concerned, kind soul who wants to alert people.
As for SSTF and SRA committee matters, there is no blame-game involved but I would like to keep it offline for the moment.
Just one request: Please join the SRA if you are not already a member.
Please feel free to drop me an email if you need further clarification.

Best regards,
Orang Seputeh
Towards A More Secure Future

mark tan said...

Question : Does each individual in a house hold need to register to be amember? If not then I can consider myself a member already. How do I get updates and news from The SRA website ?

Orang Seputeh said...

Dear Mark
The previous practice was to consider one member from each household as being sufficient. However, if you read the constitution as it stands now, there is nothing to prevent any qualified person from applying to be a member in his own right.
Hope that makes it clear. If not, please peruse the constitution again.
As for joining the SRA Yahoo newsgroup, you will have to access the SRA website and apply through there for the webmaster to include you in the newsgroup. Of course, you will have to provide your full name and particulars to verify membership.
Good luck.

Best regards
Orang Seputeh
Towards A More Secure Future

fizzychickensoup said...

So what is the update on the robbery?
What have the police found?
Who is/are the suspect(s)?
Did anyone witness the robbery?
Is this just a 'black hole'?
Was the whole thing 'staged' to shocked the Seputeh residents into a more positive form of action?

All seems a bit 'strange' to me

fizzychickensoup said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a result of not having our own security in Taman Seputih.

Do you really believe that...if so why are you 'anonymous'?

Orang Seputeh said...

Tut, tut, dear fizzychickensoup,

You must be in a naughty mood today to suggest the robbery could be "staged" to shock people into action.
Most certainly not... just ask the OCPD himself at the station dpwn the road from your condo.
It is not a good thing to happen in our neighbourhood -- whether landed homes or gated condos.
And being an anonymous commenter does not mean one is not sincere.
We know you, dear Raymond, and applaud your candour.
Please keep your comments coming and please sign up to join the SRA if you have not.

Best regards,
Orang Seputeh
Towards A More Secure Future

mark tan said...

Dear All

First of all for the robbery to be staged then the victims should be in on it..I know for a fact they are not. In such case if it was done purely as fizzychickensoup says then its still a crime.Personally I doubt any party eager to get the security up and running is able to organize such a feat. After all the elections for new SRA comitee was held last year and I believe those in the SSTF got elected in. But yet there is no updates as to who holds what position etc. If the new comitee is serious about security as much harped on by the SSTF last year then its high time they get down to business and let residents know the next course of action or an alternate plan.

fizzychickensoup said...

Sure I was playing a bit of 'Devils Advocate', but the questions were serious.
Do we have any info on the perpetrators?
We see a lot of foreign workers going to work at the Seputeh Heights development, and indeed a lot of foreign workers who service MidValley MegaMall live in this area. Despite what the politicians want us to believe, significant numbers of workers may get laid off, and if they have no work they have no money as there is no Govt scheme to support them...so the big fear is that we will see many more incidents such as this recent unsavoury act in the weeks/months /years ahead!

Orang Seputeh said...

Dear Mark,
The short answer to your question is that SSTF is very much alive.
As to whether activities can move fast enough, it all depends.
For the long answer, email me at seputeh.residents@gmail.com
Thank you for your interest and support.

Best regards,
Orang Seputeh
Towards a More Secure Future

Orang Seputeh said...

Dear fizzychickensoup a.k.a Raymond,

We all share your concern and will work towards a safer Seputeh.
We may call on you for support and contributions in time and effort. Will you be cool with that?


Best regards,
Orang Seputeh
Towards a More Secure Future

mark tan said...

Dear Orang Seputeh / Chicken Soup

First and formost to orang seputeh if someone wishes to use a nick no matter what remarks one makes about anonymous contributers you should respect that wish. Outing someone online is a tad bit unethical. Sorry but thats my opinion.
On the other matter why not brief me and all who are interested in the transition of power in the SRA and the latest from the SSTF here. I have signed up to the SRA website but still cant login.

To Chickensoup,

As much as we all fear the rise of foreign workers in our area for many reasons please take note that most if not all the crime is commited by locals. These foreign workers have also become their victims. Anyway there is no use worrying about foreign workers unless the new SRA team is able or willing to dictate who homeowners can lease their properties to.

Orang Seputeh said...

Dear Mark,
You seem very insistent that all and sundry should know what has happened, here goes:
I am sad to report nothing much has happened as far as the handover from the old SRA Committee to the new SRA Committee is concerned.
I know it has been over a month but attempts have been made by the new committee to effect a handover of the records of SRA.
We are hopeful of this being done pretty soon. Without a proper handover of records and work-in-progress matters, nothing much can be done, right?
I believe the Christmas & year-end activities plus CNY festive season must be the culprit.
We are still trying to get the handover done and then we can get down to work -- serious work.

Best regards,
Orang Seputeh
Towards a More Secure Future

mark tan said...

Thanks for that info , that wasnt so hard and long to say was it? With CNY now over I hope that we residents will get a proper update.
On a personal note I do think this site is more user friendly than the SRA one.

Orang Seputeh said...

Dear Mark,
I was afraid of inadvertently stepping on sensitive toes but thank you for the compliment.
The new Committee hopes to be able to improve on the web presence of SRA after the handover.
It's best for all, whether old or new committee members, to work together for our common good.

Best regards,
Orang Seputeh
Towards A More Secure Future

fizzychickensoup said...

Hi Mark,
Thanks for your comments. Much appreciated. I felt a bit embarrassed about being 'exposed' online. If I want a spanking I go to other sites to achieve that objective.
Orang Seputeh...if you wish to 'expose' me and announce to the world where I live...then perhaps you could start with yourself.

I agree that this site is better than the SRA site. [I tried to join but my application was rejected....maybe me name didn't sound local, and therefore I would not be an acceptable member?. However as I stated earlier...its all a bit of "one way traffic" unless interested parties care to comment.
It is my firm belief that this site cannot and will not survive in its present form, where one person controls everything including what we wish to say.
Only 'Orang Seputeh' can provide that stats, but I am very sure there are no more than a handful of people who visit the site anymore, and just two or three of us bother to comment.
Shame really. What is there to fear?

Regarding your question 'Orang Seputeh'...... "We may call on you for support and contributions in time and effort. Will you be cool with that?"
I am very cool about lending support for the safety, security & well-being of Seputeh residents in any way I possibly can however I am already paying 'through the nose' for security & maintenance in my residence which you exposed as 'a condo' in your earlier reply.

I am still eager to learn what has been 'discovered' following the robbery.
Surely there has been some feedback/developments/outcome...or is the real issue regarding the security of Seputeh Residents related to a totally ineffective police Force?

I honestly would like to know what has developed since this nasty episode occurred

Orang Seputeh said...

Dear FizzyChickenSoup,
First, I did not expose you. You have made your identity known when you used your blogger id to comment. And your name is in the blogger profile. Your own postings on your blog mentioned of your residence.
I did not mention which gated condo in Seputeh (and there is a half-dozen).
Thanks for being collegial and willing to help. I will pass the info to the SSTF and they will call on you.
As for postings and comments, I'm afraid I am responsible for the contents here, so I must have control over what's said here. Therefore, I need to moderate comments. Believe me, there are unsavoury and unfair comments which I have decided not to publish.
If you are indeed keen to be able to post, drop me a separate email with your contact particulars and I will consider it.
This blog has also permitted banyanman to post as well. His contacts are on the left panel of the main page.
As a blogger yourself, I'm sure you can empathise with me.
As the masthead of this blog states: This is a blog for the community of all Orang Seputeh but someone has to be responsible.
Sorry, there is no absolute freedom. :)

On the robbery case, we have not heard anything yet. We would appreciate updates from any blog reader.
I guess there has been no success by the cops as they would at least inform the Press if there's good news.
I am also mindful of not disclosing too many details as the victims might want to maintain some privacy.
Our objective is to spread awareness of the need for security but not to be too nosey.

Best regards
Orang Seputeh
Towards A More Secure Future

Rosie said...

Dear Orang Seputeh,
Hello! Thank you for starting this blog to discuss security issues in Seputeh. May I know which road the grandma and the tenant lives?

Having read the comments on this blog, I have to say I too am having difficulty to sign up at the SRA yahoo website for the past 2 years.

For your information, if any one sees suspicious strangers loitering around you could call the 24 hours police hotline at Pusat Kawalan Brickfields 03-227 444 65. Give a description of the vehicle/motor bike registration number so the police patrol could identify it and question the strangers on the spot.

My neighbour, a housewife, is concern about the security risks faced by residents at Seputeh and suggested I email to SSTF blog to share her experience. Two days ago on Sunday, her son noticed 2 Indian men on motorbike as he drove his car into the porch at night. Her son came out of the house at 5 am as he was awake all night playing poker and his friend came to his house to borrow DVD. Her son saw the same men at dawn looking out at the houses.

Two more incidents were related to her by fellow neighbours so I can't verify it's authencity personally. The first incident occured sometime before Christmas last year. A 70+ year old man brought his grandchildrn to the open field at Jln Tmn Seputeh. As he was talking on his handphone, 2 Indian men on motorcycle approached him for directions. He was suspicious as one of the men was staring at his handphone and subsequently the grandfather punched him. The man fell and a small pen knife dropped. The grandfather grabbed the knife and the two men left.

Another incident which happened last month. A house owner drove out at 1030 in the morning but came back in half hour's time when he realised he forgot to bring his handphone. However, his house was already broken in and the thief was not seen.

Happy Lunar New Year!

Orang Seputeh said...

Dear Rosie,
Yes, it's always better to err on the side of caution. As they say, better be safe than being sorry.

So, folks, feel free to call on the cops anytime using the numbers on the Jan 23 posting which I reproduce here:
*Brickfields Ops Room 03-22744465
*KL Contingent Ops Room: 03-21150999
*Bukit Aman Ops Room: 03-20319999

Don't feel bad about calling them and turning out to be a false alarm. At least, the cops know that we are vigilant and they will be motivated to do a better job.
Also, if there are many calls, they will know that there is a problem and hopefully will allocate more resources for Seputeh.

Best regards,
Orang Seputeh
Towards a More Secure Future

mark tan said...

Hi all

Unfortunately as days go by there is nothing moving on the part of those spearheading the SSTF or the new SRA . The only active task force seems to be the criminal one. The incident at the field near the Japan Club did take place. What makes this worse is it took place in broad daylight.
There was also a snatch theft yesterday along Jln Tmn Seputeh Dua. Also in broad daylight.
As much as numbers of all PDRM ops roooms are helpful I think that more 'relevant' police patrols, preferably on foot would be better.
Also whats really up with the SRA site????? Its been a few days now and still I am waiting to be accepted. Is the moderator too busy?? Last I checked the site has been updated. Or as Chickensoup says , do we hav too foreign sounding names?? Can someone please highlight on this.

fizzychickensoup said...

That's a very good question Mark.
I 're-applied to join the SRA 'Yahoo site' three days ago...but so far nothing. If I wait another week, I can expect a 'rejection'....just like last time.
Someone needs to 'get their finger out'!

mark tan said...

Dear All

Its been more than aweek that I am still a pending member for the SRA site. I am wondering if there are certain "requirements" to join the group. Eg does my name have to appear as a paying member of the SRA? As I did question earlier if every person has to pay to be accepted or its one payment per house hold.
As of today the site has been updated, the latest on the flier incident so it can be that the moderator is too busy to accept members.
Also it seems like the old SRA is still in control of the site. Any verification on this?
There is still no word on who the new comitee members are as well. Whats going on with the new and the old comitee?? If both sides are too busy or non cooperative then maybe SRA should be dissolved so residents can act on their own to solve problems rather than wait till the cows come home for this two sides to grow up and get working on the problems we face.

Orang Seputeh said...

Dear Mark,
Orang Seputeh sympathises with you but that so-called Seputeh website is actually a geocities site with a yahoo email address listed. That email address does not work anymore.

Yes, there have been two comments, both not-so-kind, but we will let it ride.

After all, the main issue of non-Malaysian members is fait accompli. These members were admitted by the previous committee in 2008 before the AGM.

As for the so-called security flyers, there was none issued by SSTF. All our flyers come with our name proudly emblazoned. Check the SSTF record. We do not issue anonymous flyers. However, we do sympathise with the individual who must be frustrated and exasperated enough to spend his or her own money to do it.

Please check out the new contacts for SRA matters at the left panel and an email address that you can send your request to join the Yahoo newsgroup.

To your question of "what is going on between the old committee and the new committee", if truth be told, nothing much.
These are the people who stepped down voluntarily, as they had stepped up previously voluntarily.
Nobody pushed them out.

But, we have good news: the former honorary secretary has just handed over documents to the current committee. This long-awaited occasion took place at the SRA President's house on Friday Feb 6.
We are grateful that it finally happened even though it was reported the promised handover was within two weeks from Dec 19.
Even then, the minutes of 2008 SRA Committee meetings, if any, were not handed over.
Nevertheless, we want to move forward and not let these familiar roadblocks hinder progress for Agenda 2009.
I think that's sufficient info for now to satiate you, dear Mark.
Please proceed to the SRA blog if you want to raise any other matter as Orang Seputeh is dedicated to security.

Best regards,
Orang Seputeh
Towards a More Secure Future